3 year old can’t sleep

I need some fucking help😩 My daughter turned 3 in October. She can’t fall asleep on her own. No matter what time we put her to bed, she can’t fall asleep. She has a routine, she is in bed at the same time all week… she can’t fall asleep. So far when she falls asleep she will stay asleep. But we can’t get her to fall asleep. We tried the tv on, the tv off, nightlight, no nightlight… nothing works. Melatonin works, but we don’t want to give it to her every night. We changed the bed time from 9:30-10pm to 6:30pm (gradually of course) and for the first 3 days it worked. Now she has to go for a car ride to fall asleep. She starts hitting, biting, throwing herself on you repeatedly, and even pinching or pulling hair. These behaviors ONLY HAPPEN AT NIGHT WHEN SHE IS OVERLY EXHAUSTED AND CANNOT SLEEP. She is NOT on the spectrum, we think she might have a sleeping disorder. She has never been a good sleeper, we have brought it up with her dr multiple times and keep getting told that she will out grow it, she’s 3. All the stuff that used too work don’t work anymore other than the car. Please, does anyone have any experience with something like this with their kids?? Or any advice they can give?
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My boy turned 3 in October too and he does this as well. We found physical activity helps. Nothing crazy just like playing in the backyard or a trip to the park. It helps him sleep better. we also use red light in the room to help with natural melatonin production & it seemed to help too!

Thank you!! I’ll try having her do more psychical activity tomorrow and order a red light. I’ll try anything tbh

Both my oldest kids got like this when we brought my almost 2 month old home. So far the only thing that has worked for them is to play baby lullabies.

My 3 year old is the same way. I like the melatonin free calm gummy’s from highland and lavender magnesium lotion helps a lot. But unpopular opinion here I’ve taken to telling my child things like if you don’t go to sleep you can have this or that tomorrow, on some nights when she’s being terrible about sleeping. I know that seems awful but if it gets us to sleep without a major fight I don’t really care anymore. I’m tired too and need sleep. If she likes car rides have you tried rocking her or maybe get a kids hammock and put it real low?

Try white nose

Is she still taking a nap?? I had to stop naps, no matter how short my son’s nap was it would take hours to get him to sleep. Now that we did we made sure his routine was down. We turn tv off 30-60 mins before bed. We let him run around and get extra energy out for that time. Give him some one on one time with dad or me. Then he brushes his teeth, puts his night time diaper on (we are about to have a second and I don’t want to clean sheets everyday), pick and read books, and dad rubs his back while he listens to music. He falls asleep within 10 mins if not during his last book. But if he even naps in the car it takes FOREVER. He does not go to sleep on his own but we are ok with that.

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