HELP WITH POTTY TRAINING PLEASE (it's long I know but I'm desperate)

My daughter is 22 months. I feel like she's been ready since 18 months old to be potty trained but I've just been procrastinating. Finally I've begun... Prior to beginning she would 1) tell me when she's made, 2) ask me to give her clean diapers 3) sit on her toilet with her clothes on next to me 4) has asked me to pull her pants down to use the potty 5) and much more... So she's definitely ready and now, past ready. Recently I experimented and realized that when I take her diaper off, she will hold her pee/poo until I put a diaper on. So I left it off just to experiment and a poo was coming.. I ran to the potty and put her on, she screamed the whole time as the poo came out. It was at that moment I felt I've traumatized her. We did do a big celebration and she loved it but she didn't want to touch that potty for three days. That was probably like a month ago. Anyways... I still didn't begin training officially. Now four days ago I have officially began. Day 1) she held her pee and poo until she had a diaper (nap time, bedtime). She sits on the potty no problem. But when she has to go, she wants to be held by me and climb all over me. Everytime she couldn't hold it anymore I'd put her over the potty. She cried and each time that day it got worse and worse. So day 2) I didn't force it. I made sure that I made the potty fun and celebrated just her at least sitting on it since the first day I was a bit aggressive. No diapers all day unless sleeping. She would literally hold her stuff for hours on end just to not make on the floor or the potty. She sits on the potty for fun but when she actually has to go, once again she climbs on me and wants to be held by me non-stop until she literally can't control it anymore and just goes & cries when she does. Day 3) I try again to not force her and let her just make accidents if she needs to, but she holds it so long that I actually get worried. I decided to try training underwear because if it gets wet maybe it'll promote her to want to go in the potty. Instead. She would just get it wet. I would ask her if it's wet and then she would realize that it is and ask me to take it off. While being upset. I figured that maybe she just isn't ready so I stopped trying and put her diapers on her again. After putting her diaper on I wanted to try one more time. So I went to the bathroom with her and I made a very fun experience. The second half of that day, she loves the potty so much that she started telling me when she has to go, asks me to take off her diapers and runs to the potty but still refuses to actually go in the potty. She wants to sit on the potty to play with her stuffed animals and me read her books, and to make it fun but the second she has to go. She gets up and climbs all over me again. She will literally ask me to take it off just so she could use the potty all to not feel comfortable using the potty when she actually needs to. I spent so much time with her in the bathroom yesterday because she asked me to take her diaper off, told me she had to go to the bathroom, and then she would try and say she's all done and then say no. No I'm not all done and try again. It was an ongoing cycle for probably 40 minutes. And she really had to go because she was crossing her legs and everything but the second she sits on the toilet she just won't go, like it makes her nervous. Day 4) she woke up wanting to go to the bathroom again. She's been asking me all day to take her diaper off so she can go to the bathroom and I do every single time. And every single time. She's crossing her legs and really has to pee and ask to go, sits down and has so much fun in there. But the second she really feels like she can't control it. She gets up. Or the second. She feels like it's coming out she gets up and she freaks out. I've tried getting her to blow bubbles but I think she realizes it's making it harder to hold her pee so she freaks out and just gives me the cup. Once again. Climbing all over me wants the urge gets too much. I give her her diaper now. I do whatever she asks me to in regards to the toilet in order to decrease her anxiety. But she's literally asking me to take off her diaper so she can go but then doesn't. So yes, she still goes in her diaper a little but she's actually not fully going because now she wants to go in the potty but then she still holds it at the potty. So it's like she's trying to figure out where she can make to begin with. I don't really know what to do because she's not afraid of the potty, and it's not like she isn't in tune with her body yet, because she absolutely is. Is. So, I feel like she just needs to let go and she's on the potty. Idk I don't, help. Sorry if this was impossible to read, I'm using voice message because I know it's so much information and that's the easiest way to do it with a toddler.
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22 months is still pretty early, I personally wouldn't push it if it's causing her to cry and become uncomfortable. It may be creating a lot of negative emotions around using the potty that make it more difficult in the long run. I think this is another one of those things that can be very polarizing because you have the people who start with elimination communication in infants all the way to those who wait until the child says themselves they're ready and everything in between. I'll just share what our experience was. I tried to start potty training right around the same age and while she would go occasionally, she just wasn't really having it. So I backed off. When she turned 3 I told her it was time to say goodbye to the diapers because she was a big girl now and got super excited about it. We did the no underwear method and I can honestly say she only had 3 accidents on the floor and it just clicked. It was so easy and I'm so glad we waited!

@Amber that’s not early at all. It’s actually recommended to start early. Definitely should start by then my son is 1 1/2 and is going potty.

My son is almost 2 and he goes potty but won’t poop on the potty as he now hides when he poops. Potty training is hard for each child especially the first one. It’s just a constant process and learning for the kids and moms. Just stick to it and try a schedule. Have you tried a potty chair and not the actual toilet? My son won’t go on the actual toilet but he’ll go in his own potty chair. My son also wanted to just play around that’s when we had a schedule in play every 15/30 mins we’d go on his potty and it worked. Me and all my siblings were potty trained by 2 with that method.

@Shynel averages for age of potty training have gone up over time. The average time to even begin potty training in the US is 2-3 years. Yes you can start earlier, but if your child is pushing back against it why would you push it? https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/toddler/toilet-training/Pages/the-right-age-to-toilet-train.aspx

@Amber once they are old enough to tell you potty then it’s time to potty train. Once they are able to know their cues then start. Or your going to have a kid that never wants to and only wants to wear diapers. You can’t have no 4 year old in a diaper especially when it comes to starting school.

@Shynel that's fine, I acknowledged in my first comment this is a polarizing topic. My daughter knew at 22 months when her diaper was dirty, but had no interest in using the toilet. As I said the second she turned 3 I explained it to her and because she was old enough to rationalize better what was happening she went from fully in diapers to fully potty trained in less than a week. I can assure you she was nowhere close to being 4 and in diapers. No two children are the same but it's pretty much agreed upon that pushing it when the child isn't ready is counterproductive. At 4 it becomes a problem, at not even 2 it's not worth the struggle.

@Amber no not always because my son was scared like I said and he got over it once he had his own potty and he goes potty on the actual toilet now sometimes they need that little push

@Amber I don’t do gentle parenting. Sorry

@Shynel that's fine. I'm not coming for you and you're not coming for me (hopefully lol). We've both expressed our opinions and experiences and it's up to OP to decide which route she wants to take and which will be a better fit for her situation. That's the beauty of the internet, you get to hear from multiple people who may do things differently. Have a good night!

Sounds so stressful, I’m sorry!! I’ve potty trained plenty of kids but I’ve never dealt with this. Maybe try moving the potty to a different area? Like a change of environment. Also reward for even sitting on the potty and then give a higher reward if she goes inside the potty. Ignore the screaming and just reward for going potty. & don’t let her climb on you, stand up and encourage her to sit down.

Continue trying to distract her on the toilet and hopefully , she’ll pee and not even realize it. Maybe try running water ?

I clicked i can’t help by accident. She’s still very young yes some children get it at that age some children don’t. My little ones 2.5 and she’s only just getting getting it, i tried 2 weeks before christmas and it wasn’t very successful but i left it for a few weeks then tried again 2 weeks after christmas. We’re 3 weeks in now and she’s done so much better. We still had the potty around and when mummy or daddy went we encouraged her to sit on the potty with us to show her there was nothing to be afraid of. We also used a potty chart and again explained if she got 3 stickers a day she would get to pick a present from the shops and that helped massively but i’m not sure if your little one will fully understand that yet. Mine still holds her bowel movements, she asks for a nappy but i’ve not give in. I remain patient and keep taking her 1000 times a day, it’s very frustrating as i know she needs one but eventually she will get it. It’s really not fun 😅 Your not the only one

In regard to the present and the sticker chart from the shop that’s stopped now she’s got the hang of it but it gave her the incentive to go. She still has the odd accident at nursery or if she’s deep in playing or watching something but the majority of the day she’s full dry. We still celebrate when she has one to keep that positivity up. I also let her pick her own big girl knickers which is also abit more exciting for them. Just keep persistent. She is still holding poos until she no longer can but she’s not freaking out as much now when she does one or sees it in the potty so we are getting there hopefully 🤞🏼

My daughter just turned 2 last month & just started becoming interested in potty training, but I haven't been on top of it like I should. 😅 She shows interest in wanting to potty, but she hasn't quite figured out how to do it yet. Lol. There's no need to rush. 🥰

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@One BoyMom I've met her stand on me thus far. Her anxiety is through the roof when she is having a tough time holding it. Don't you feel like if now, I decide to just not let her climb on me all of a sudden, that it would make her anxiety worse? 😭 Also, I've tried the change of environment as well. I even tried a new toilet and she was excited. Said "I want to pee on it!" But then when she went to sit, she sat an inch too much to the side and now won't go anywhere near that one.

@One BoyMom she's so insanely aware

@Tasha I don't mind waiting but now she's the one asking me to take off her diaper to potty even tho I know she will avoid the toilet when the time has finally come. I think I just have to decide what I'm doing & remain consistent but I don't want to traumatize her

@Nina♡ yeah I don't mind waiting but baby girl has decided that even tho I'm choosing to wait longer... That she's going to ask to go potty/have her diaper removed anyways... All to not go 😭😭

@Krys Maybe she thinks she has to potty 🤷🏾‍♀️ I'd give her time on the potty to see if she actually goes & if she doesn't go after about 5-10 mins, just try again later ☺️

A lot of kids develop an anxiety of their pee/poo and struggle to ‘say bye’ to it as it is a part of them. I’d hold off for a little while and just keep the potty in sight and she may decide to go on it again

My little boy was potty trained at two, he also wouldn’t use the potty so we got a step ladder toilet seat and he never looked back! If she was comfortable around you using the big toilet then let her, I always found because my little boy was tall a potty just wasn’t the right angle for him to use the toilet on x

My daughter was like this, she could tell me she needed to go but wouldn't release when we went. She was scared of the release and would hold for hours until she was crying in pain. I found that putting her feet in warm water would make her release and we did that for a couple of days until she got used to the feeling

@Krys Maybe buy her some knickers and make a big fuss of them see if that helps if you want to stick at it now. With wanting her nappy off but not doing anything is a good sign, so just keep going with her as frustrating as it is when she doesn’t do anything it’s getting her used to doing it and sitting on the potty. We go upstairs to the bathroom 1000 times a day but she will eventually do something

@Krys Awww okay, I’m thinking you may just have to pull back on potty training and revisit in a month or two. Or my last idea is to try regular panties. Training underwear are like padded undies right? So it gives the feel of a diaper but no one likes wet panties. Maybe that’ll encourage her

I don’t think she’s ready. I wouldn’t push it too hard. Everyone told me my son was so smart he’d get quick. Well he was traumatized and over it by day 3. It went from something that he thought was a game to something he dreaded. I held off and waited until closer to 2.5 and he understood the concept right away.

I would wait a bit longer and try again in a few months. I found the sweet spot for me was around 26/27 months old. Both the girls got it in a weekend I just took the nappy off, did lots of praise and made first sure on the first day I gave them loads to drink so they had to go loads.

I read the oh crap potty training book and followed that very loosely. I’m sure it says to not make the potty a game etc or a toy and that they know it’s purely going to the toilet in

Don't give up. Keep the training pants. Make sure you both drinka a lot of water or water with juice and make sure YOU pee every hour and make her watch you pee and be all happy snd I'm so happy I peed in thr toilet my tummy feels so much better then put her on hers hold her hand give her a book, let her splash hands in v warm soapy water to relax or even put a foot in a bucket of warm water to relax. Practice blowing out candles or blowing bubbles in the water through a straw to relax and release. Last resort you can pour warm water on her lady bits while she's sitting on potty and needs to go. I'm reading tiny potty by Andrea olson. Main thing don't go back to diapers and stay positive. Contact doctor if she's holding too long and getting ill

My daughter was the same. At 20 months she started asking to sit on the potty, a few other things. We talked about the urge to potty and dry diapers and she seemed excited but she stopped going and would hold all her pee in until naptime. I talked to a consultant who said she just wasn't really ready and to try again in 2 to 3 months so that's what we will do

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