If you use baby sign language and baby consistently says the beginning sound of the word while doing the sign do you count it as saying the word?

My little is 9 months and has started trying to say a lot recently. She has a lot of signs down but has started pairing sounds. She’s consistently adding “ba” to ball, “daw” to dog, “ni ni” to night night or sleep sign, a few others that aren’t as consistent like more and all done. I really want to count it cos she knows what she’s talking about 😂
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They are testing out the word and still learning the word, but personally I'd only count the whole word I'm learning ASL slowly , to be able to use ASL and English both with my son. Unfortunately slowly, so I'm not doing ASL as much as I could be doing that . ( ASL because baby sign does have some baby fied.... Variations on actual signs versus just straight ASL which is the actual main language itself but certainly does have " dialects" )

But I'll probably use more ASL with the next kid

I think if the word has a meaning and she's using it correctly, you count it. Theyre allowed to mispronounce words.

Actually no, they could count

I change my answer 🤣🤣🤣 . Id count it

( we'll do some ASL when we start him in speech therapy 🫤😐

Signs alone count towards the word count verbalizing isn’t necessary so I’d definitely count it. My boys typically sign things way before they are able to vocalize it

@Elizabeth It’s hard to say if you should for sure 😂

So when it comes to medically in like the speech pathologist world, they count sign as a word or if they repeat the same sound as meaning a word even if it’s not exactly right they count it as a word. I hope that makes sense. Lol

As long as they are using the same “word” or sound to us for the same thing it counts. If they know it in sign but not verbally it counts. So if the just ba all the time for ball and nothing else that counts as a word. They know the more sign and use it correctly or atleast the same way everytime it counts. My son was a preemie so we saw specialist up until he was 1 and cleared from the programs and that is the guidance we received.

At 9 months old I’d count it as trying to say dog, and knowing the sign for dog!

Why am I just now finding out the sign itself can be counted as a word!? 🤯 y’all I taught babies and toddlers for 4 years lol

@Tessa because you're forgetting that ASL sign is an actual full language, that has syntax and dialects for different regions, and there are other sign languages too ?

( there's black sign language.... I'm sure southern ASL is a bit different than northern ASL.... )

Black ASL, used by African American people in the US. ASL I believe was developed at galludet University, but I could be remembering wrong.

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@Elizabeth so asl was invented in 1817 at the American School for the Deaf (ASD). (The school was founded by Thomas Hopkins Gallaudet and Laurent Clerc) Gallaudet university was opened in 1864 & was the first official federally funded university to exist FOR deaf & hard of hearing students! (Which opened due to Abraham Lincoln recognizing that asl should have never been illegal)

@Parker 又 yes but I think she’s mentioning the fact that a lot of countries have varying signs based on their culture/language similar to how AAVE exists with how black Americans speak to one another there is a subset of ASL that black people use which incorporates a lot of AAVE and keeps them engaged in the culture. UK sign language is different than American and same for other countries.

@Khyia I was just responding to the last part of her last comment about where asl was developed! My asl teacher was a Gallaudet allium so we learned a lot about the university’s history lol I never disagreed with anything else she said! (:

@Parker 又 thanks! I was forgetting it's history, I took an ASL course in college

My dr said if she uses the same sound for everything then no it doesn't count. But if she makes specific sounds for specific things then it absolutely counts as a word.

@Elizabeth no worries dude! You were close! Gallaudet was involved in both places lol

We taught our son sign language since my son wasn't speaking. The speech therapist said the sign language didn't count 😕 only words did

@Mee see I don't like that because that basically dismisses the Deaf and hoh community.

I would count it, you should also count her signs too.

I feel like as long as it’s close enough to the word and you can clearly tell what the baby is trying to say then I would count it 🤷‍♀️

I’d count her verbalisations as they’re meaningful. I’d also count any signs (even without a verbalisations) as again it’s meaningful communication xxx

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