I manifest winning the lottery. Until the day it happens, I’ll never know the feeling of having 20 million GBP in my account. It’s the same for them. 🙂
I say just leave it alone. It’s not hurting you it doesn’t affect your every day life. People want to bring science into this it’s not that serious just be respectful. If you don’t agree that’s fine just don’t be a dick about it. It’s really not that serious
@Wendi again if it doesn’t affect your life in a personal way if it’s not hurting you physically just leave it alone. There are bigger issues in the world hell even in America alone that matter more than what a trans female says. That’s the problem with the world today. People are so focused on the wrong things. People make it a bigger deal than it is.
It's attention seeking, best to ignore. Shame biological women's issues are being belittled - though I don't think it's the direct intention.
@Wendi abortions aren’t becoming illegal because of transgender women. And please I’m saying this as respectful as I possibly can, don’t ever say “so you didn’t read what I said?” to me ever again. That’s one of my biggest pet peeves. No it doesn’t get ignored because it was never paid attention to in the first place. And if you looked around you’d see that. I hate to say it to you but nobody cares about women. The reason why our rights are being taken away isn’t because of transgender women it’s because of the white man that’s sitting in office. People just blame transgenders because it’s convenient. And I’ve never heard of politicians just coming up and checking kids that’s absurd. But why is it the transgender women getting all the hate? Why not the transgender men? Also you have the right to say no I don’t need you looking at my daughter simple as that. My whole point to begin with is just ignore it. You don’t give it attention, it goes away. It’s fucking 2023, why are we going 1/2
@Wendi backwards in time? This is the same thing that happened with POC. People are hating on those that aren’t “normal” in todays society and it’s just stupid. So no it doesn’t affect anyone. Just ignore it. Don’t be a dick to people because then arguing starts. For no reason. Like I said earlier the world has bigger fucking problems than oh this person is biologically a male they’re a male. It doesn’t fucking matter. It’s tiring. 2/2
@Wendi ok first of all you came at me so drop the fucking attitude. And yes my people were denied and still get denied basic human rights and whatever else. My people get deported for no fucking reason. My people get their families torn apart. So how dare I use my experience to compare it to this. And if YOU could comprehend what I said you wouldn’t have a fucking problem with me. THERE 👏ARE👏BIGGER👏ISSUES👏IN👏THE👏WORLD👏. I am very open to other peoples opinions as if you knew me you’d know that. All I said was stop bringing it up. But then you got pissy for no fucking reason. Making a big deal out of my OPINION. Simply because you didn’t like it.
@Wendi and you did say it was because of trans women that our rights are being taken away.
@Ophelia you seem to have a very skewed world view. You cannot say there are bigger issues in the world so therefore we shouldn’t care about something like this. That is horrible logic. there is always something bigger to worry about. This does not mean that every other concern is invalid. Additionally you cannot say that if it doesn’t affect me personally then someone shouldn’t care about it. That’s like saying I hear my neighbor abusing their child but it doesn’t personally affect me so I’m not gonna call the cops. If we get into this line of thinking it is extremely dangerous.
So I said there are bigger issues in the world that should probably get more focus. Because believe it or not this topic has gotten a lot of focus and most of it is to just argue. I’m not saying it’s invalid but y’all just want to make up your own shit so I’m done. All I said was stop bringing it up. And you cannot absolutely compare this to abuse. That’s just fucking stupid. Because guess what? Transgenders get abused but who helps them? No one. Because people nowadays only bring it up to start arguments. Y’all are making it a bigger deal than what I said. Stop blowing it out of proportion.
@Ophelia transitioning children before the age of consent is child abuse. My example was an accurate example. Also you’re the one arguing and altering the way you said it so it sounds better now that your flawed logic has been pointed out.
If a child wants to transition then they have that right. It’s not child abuse unless you force them. You know what is child abuse tho? Conversion camps. But people were all for it if it helped “fix” kids right? I was abused as a child. Sweetheart that’s not child abuse. I just said my point in different ways hoping you’d understand. You don’t like it? Fine. Move on love. Simple as that
@Ophelia children do not have the right to transition. Adults have the right to transition. Parent’s are supposed to protect their children from making life altering decisions before they’re old enough to actually make that decision, and before their minds have actually developed. Also I was abused as a child too, NO ONE should use that as an excuse to make this right…
Says who? Children have rights. My niece is 15 years old she doesn’t know if she wants to transition or not. She has that right. Now if you’re talking about someone you fee than a teenager I can almost guarantee you they’re not thinking about that. They’re thinking about lunch and who they’re going to hang out with at recess. You can’t tell someone they don’t have the right to do something no matter the age
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@Ophelia Children don’t always know what’s best for them. A loving parent should protect them. END OF STORY.
Some kids are actually very smart. You don’t know what’s good for them. You can’t always protect your kid. Some adults I know are children and some children I know are adults. Age does not mean maturity.
@Ophelia True, unfortunately parents cannot always protect their children. However this cannot be a reason to not try and do everything we can to protect them.
Unfortunately some things are out of a parents control and there’s nothing they can do about it no matter how good of a parent they are and no matter how hard they try
@Ophelia thankfully this is one issue that we can control and protect them from.
Unfortunately you can’t control someone’s feelings and thoughts. If your kid comes up to you saying “mom I don’t like my body. I want to be (opposite gender)” are you just going to tell them no? What you’re feeling doesn’t matter? There’s such thing as parental consent on surgeries yes but then you risk the chance of them resenting you and leaving the first chance they get.
@Ophelia the correct response to a child hating their body and possibly feeling like they should be the opposite gender, would be to remind them that they were created perfectly, and remind to them that they are beautiful the way they are. Why should we teach someone that if they hate their body they should just change it? For example, if I’m feeling insecure about my postpartum body, and I talk to my husband about it, I would want him to affirm that I am beautiful just the way I am, not that I should go get some surgery to change how I am.
Kids in my state have complete medical autonomy at 13.
Yeah that might be the “correct response” but it’s not going to stop them from feeling that way. So you telling them that what they’re feeling is silly or whatever is invalidating how they feel thus causing them to never open up or disregard their own feelings later on in life. I get where you’re coming from with the whole postpartum thing but if I’m unhappy with my body, I will change it. Not for anybody else but for me. My husband can tell me I’m perfect all he wants but I’m going to be in the gym 7 days a week. And changing your body doesn’t always necessarily mean surgery. It could be as simple as wearing the opposite gender clothes. Or if a boy wants to be a girl, wearing make up. Changing their pronouns. Harmless changes that won’t affect them permanently
@Ophelia I never said that we should tell them that their feelings are silly or that we should invalidate their feelings. I said we should affirm them in love and teach them to love their bodies the way they are.
That’s saying their feelings are invalid. “I know you don’t like your body but it’s perfect the way it was made.” It’s not as easy as that. “I know you don’t feel comfortable being a (boy), but you’re perfect and you’ll learn to love yourself”
@masooma what? That didn’t even make any sense
@Ophelia Neither does your reasoning
No I’m saying the way she worded it. My reasoning makes sense you just refuse to see any opinion that isn’t your own
@masooma yeah cause you worded it very stupidly
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@masooma oh I’m sorry did I offend you?
@Ophelia lol you’re not seeing any reasoning but your own
No I am. You don’t know what I see. Simple as that.
@masooma well don’t say we are offended if you’re not. Because no one here is offended sweetheart 😘
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@Wendi but you were the one that brought up abortions in the first place?
@Ophelia check out the testimony of Luka Hein.
No I’m good. I stand by what I say. Just leave it alone. Because it only gets brought up nowadays to start arguments.
@Ophelia ok willing remain ignorant. Others on here will check it out…
Really? Did you also read the part where I said you can change without making permanent decisions on your body? That transitioning doesn’t always mean surgery?
@Wendi 🤦🏽♀️😂 oh my god I’m not talking about the group. I’m talking about in life. So what someone wants to become the opposite gender? Just let them be. Them becoming male/female doesn’t affect anyone but themselves.
@Wendi and you’re doing the same thing sweetheart. Twisting what I’m saying to fit what you’re trying to argue
@Wendi that is exactly what I said in the first place 😂😂
@Ophelia Lol can you not see she’s being ironic?
No because you can’t really detect tone from text lol
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@Wendi that’s why if you don’t like it just ignore it and if they don’t have the audience then it doesn’t become a thing. It goes for anything really. If you don’t like the fact that they change mother to birth person for example, you don’t have to use it. I personally don’t agree with it and I will continue to say mom, mother etc. and I personally have never heard it being used only when people complain against or are for it. Because it’s not getting the attention they wanted so it’s not as affective.
Thank you for sharing. I looked up Luka Hein and I appreciate the opportunity to get more first hand experiences. I’ve been reading a lot about this lately including Chloe Cole’s story. It seems sexual abuse can correlate in these cases which is also something I’ve seen with some teen clients I’ve worked with. The pressure she suffered and the lack of mental health care she received is really sad and according to research I’ve been doing, is becoming more of a trend. Not always, but too often.
I think it’s a bit like it’s taking the piss. If, for example, a thin person started complaining about obesity-related issues, I would be a bit like wtf. I think like people have said it also moves the conversation away from issues like period poverty or crap medical care.
@Alyssa let’s be clear about one thing. Side effects and results from pumping foreign hormones into a man’s body is not the same thing that women experience when they are on their period. Thus someone undergoing such treatment cannot call it period pains, they are not experiencing the pains resulting from their uterine wall shedding.
I’ve had transgender women tell me that its side affects from hormone therapy but my thing is having side affects from hormone therapy does not equate to having a period or period pains they are different so why act like its from a period when you could just call it for what it really is you get pain in ur lower abdomen okay im sorry you have to deal with tht i get pain in my lower abdomen cause my pelvis is misaligned tht doesnt mean im on my period or having period pains or ta for a completely different reason
Considering they don’t get periods, I have literally no idea. I would have to assume to get attention? I know their hormone therapy can cause some PMS like symptoms, but biological males cannot get periods.