@Hayley it is also the parents job to teach their kids speech & social skills before they are old enough to go to nursery, though. That is literally what a parent's job is for the first 3 years of their child's life.
@Rachel I completely understand that, that wasn’t my main point. some people have to return to work before their child can speak. My main point was, I don’t see why children should miss out on things they might enjoy because of the parents not working. That was all.
I put my 2 year old into preschool. I’m a sahm and technically a carer for my asd son who was out of school at the time so I could not take her to groups. She started school pre verbal. Speech therapy did not start until she started school due to covid. I wanted to give her a safe space, somewhere that would help her speech and socialisation skills and get her in the system.
So you’d punish a child by making them miss out on everything a nursery provides for mental and physical development because the mom doesn’t work….. what about the moms that can’t work because they can’t match the hours with childcare they can’t afford the extra fees that comes with ? they don’t have partners or family support? Or they have SN kids they need to look after. Love how people try and shame others on here in incognito by taking a small group of people & try make it seem like that’s what everyone does. So is it the same when they are school age they shouldn’t go school and it should be moms job because she doesn’t work?
Being a parent isn’t a 9-5 job you don’t get weekends and evenings off. So I don’t see the harm in a parent putting their child into nursery for a couple of days a week to have a break and also for their child to benefit from what nursery has to offer. If it was full time I guess I’d question why they can’t work but really I’m not that bothered what others do.
@Emily there is nothing absolutely nothing that a nursery can provide an under 1 yr old baby that a mom cannot! Your entire job for the first year of your child’s nurse is to care for it. All the mental and physical stimulation a baby needs should come from mom and dad in the first year. Nurseries were created to help parents who have to work at this time. They are a substitute not the standard. So you mean to tell me that in countries where nurseries for under 1’s are not a thing that all the children are mentally and emotionally stunted ? Your baby will learn better from perfect strangers just trying to earn a pay check ? Be real
This offended me wholly as a mother of three who has recently separated. A choice made in our marriage owing to the cost of childcare so I did not return to work. , I look after 3 kids by myself, morning noon and night without a break even during my marriage the only time I got a break was during labour. So how dare you dehumanise someone because they don't work, I'd love my son to go to nursery but I've opted not to, but even so I have an equal right too. Those assumptions about having a husband working full time and pretending to be single, that's your friends darling! Being single doesn't increase your allowance a couple over 25 gets more. For the record I've already contributed 17years of taxes into a country who has done nothing for me. Living on benefits as I'm learning is not as lavish as you'd believe, so I could never imagine it's an intentional choice for the many since numbers of benefit claimants have risen since COVID. You're definitely a Trump supporter!
Sounds like you’re unhappy with your situation and you’re taking that out of other people, hope you find peace and happiness 🫶🏼
I think it is you that needs to be real the fact you are trying to shame an entire group of women on an app created for support is disgusting and nothing short of trying to spread hate and saying that group of children should suffer discrimination. Some people don’t have dads and family support and even if they do everyone needs a break. It’s not about them learning better from perfect strangers it’s also about them being round the same age group learning from other kids too
@Anita You can be offended all you like, but dogs will holla. I am majorly talking about the benefit system in England. I don’t know and don’t care how it works in never never land aka America. Definitely not a Trump supporter, yall can have orange man
Hot dogs will holla I mean
It tends to be children from non working families that are most disadvantaged and so that is why they are offered free hours childcare. As others have said, why put the children at a disadvantage just because the parents don’t work?? Honestly I doubt there are people with husbands fraudulently claiming benefits. Maybe partners or boyfriends, but not legal husbands as that would be on the government systems. Again, maybe shift your blame to the government and those who run things which have allowed people to do this to the benefits system rather than the people themselves.
@Lucy the free funded childcare is provided to allow parents have child care while they work tho not to have a break
@Anita honestly I’m not even in this position and it’s offended me I’m sorry there are people on here that want to spread hate and not support! If you ever want to chat drop me a message they say it takes a village ❤️ and fyi it sounds like you do an amazing job with or without nursery support xx
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Incognito, can I ask who takes care of your children and their ages when you are working? How many hours a week do you work?
@Scarlett how is lack of access to nursery a disadvantage for an 8month old. The govt is literally paying the mother an allowance so she can stay home and care for him but she chooses to put him in nursery and do fuck all while taking the dole from the govt that we pay for from our taxes!
@Karen I think it is totally different for children with development disorders like asd. Settings like that can definitely help.
@𝔾𝕚𝕤𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖 I have a 5 yr old and a 10month old. I work full time from home and my partner also works full time. He does night shifts while I work in day. Oldest goes to school while me and husband take turns watching baby in the day while I work
@Karen this is a whole different scenario and completely understandable
I don’t think people living off benefits can afford nursery fees? I understood the free hours are for working parents and the free hours from 2 is to support the child (for those on benefits)
@Emma I don't work so I can't get any free hours until my little boy is 3
How many 8 month olds are there in nursery honestly!? I don’t know where you’re getting this info from but you are really angry. As I said before you’re angry at the wrong people.
FYI they can’t and aren’t putting their children in a nursery placement under 1 yrs old. The government only offer 15hrs to those on UC once they’re 2, please get facts right first. Don’t know why your so angry love
@Emma yes I believe the funded hours for 9 months plus is for working mums is that correct?
@Hayley yeh that that’s from sept 2025 isn’t it
@Scarlett it’s from the term after they turn 9 months so my daughter is now 10 months but can use the hours from January when I return to work that’s how it was explained to me. So 9 month old baby now’s will be able to claim there’s from April 2025 x
Why are you so bothered? 😂😂 Most parents on benefits can't even afford nursery fees, but also, did it ever occur to you that some mums are actually disabled? And sending the child to nursery for a few hours a week gives them the time they need to get on top of housework? Maybe it's for them to attend medical appointments? I think you really need to re-evaluate your outlook on life tbh... Sad, sad person trying to bring other mums down with you
@Hayley my girl gets her 30 hours from next April! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
@Nikita me & my husband are both disabled but our 2 year old isn't starting nursery until he is 3
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@Scarlett this!!! She's getting angry at the wrong people, shift the blame to our shitty government for allowing it!
I liked your response why it just further perpetuated my stance on you! "Yall" 🥴 is a predominantly Southern American term, I guess never ever lands your home. Offended.....yes but guess what so are you that's why you wrote this post! And my child is still entitled to a nursery place even though I don't work😁😁😁😁😁 Would the class clown 🤡 now take a seat! It's easy to be confrontational from the shadows. Carol Anne step into the light!
@Nikita not trying to bring anyone down, just pointing out the obvious truth, moms who work full time also have house chores and medical appts and some how they make it work. You can’t say that you can’t work because you are providing childcare and then turn around and still fob of your kid to the nursery ? I am of course not talking about ppl with disabilities or kids with SN. These are the obvious exceptions but let us not pretend like every one on benefits falls into this criteria. If you are going to live off of funds paid for by working people you can at least focus on the children you are raising ? Everyone who keeps acting like sending kids especially non verbal kids to nursery is an advantage, it is not ! It is sometimes a neccesity because you have to work but it is avoidable if you don’t have to work no one can provide better care for your baby than you especially when they are so tender. If you are not working and you still send your kid to nursery you are taking the piss!
Your mom should have swallowed you, you're trash! 🗑️
@Rachel if on certain benefits, you can get hours from 2
"Hot dogs will holla" I wouldn't have bothered correcting it, it was still trash.
This sheep wants to argue with accredited childcare professionals and scholars because of her ignorance, when the whole scheme was introduced to eradicate disadvantages that emerge by those that are less advantaged economically. Also key preparation in readiness for school or are benefit claimants not entitled to send their children their too. Sounds like you would have benefitted from this scheme as a child because clearly you're lacking.
@Anita oh now we name calling are we. Dumb ass, you are clearly the child of one of the free loading benefit scrounges I’m referring to, no wonder you are going so hard. 🤣🤣 it would serve you better to spend more time questioning why your lazy ass mother couldn’t be bothered to raise you herself. Faff brained fool
@Anita because most Americans like you do not travel. I’m not suprised that you think people who live in England speak Shakespearean English and do not use terms such as y’all and bro 😂 you really are the stereotypical American who thinks the world revolves around them. Haha. How mundane
@Hayley yes it’s only for working parents. If both working or if single mum working more than the threshold
Actually my mother's a qualified nurse and now a probation officer, I'm a qualified childcare practitioner who has worked in mental health.....yesss we are key workers. Calling you a clown was not me, name calling but an accurate description of your character. That's a fact darling.
Did you think I was American because I'm engulfed in melanin? 😁😁😁 Bab I'm British just like you, as are my parents SADLY when we have representation like you
@Rachel depending on what benefits you get, they may be able to start with 15hrs from 2 https://www.gov.uk/help-with-childcare-costs/free-childcare-2-year-olds-claim-benefits
@Emma, yeah, we have asked, but I think we are on the wrong benefits, unfortunately. I don't mind having another year with my little boy, though ☺️
@Rachel if you receive UC, they will pay up to 85% of the fees, can also be used along side when they do receive the funded hours as well :)
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@Anita you are not British what you are is an angry loud piece of work that’s what you are . With unfortunate facial features to match. Why in Gods name would I think you were American because you are brown ? Another of your dumb assumptions. You are a sad excuse for a human . My condolences to your kin
But you did assume she was American? So you’ve made an assumption lol
@Frayere I think that is if you receive UC & are working.
@Rachel ah yes it is, sorry I completely forgot that part!
You’re really showing your bitterness in these comments 😬. I think you need to Put down your phone and find happiness in YOUR life , and stop concerning your self with other people’s.
Nurseries also are good for some children. Why should they miss out because their mums don’t work? . They learn so much from nursery/childminder settings it’s important for soooo many skills, speech, social etc. I understand your frustrations however we can’t control peoples actions.