Interesting Brene Brown quote -

"Here’s the painful pattern that emerged from my research with men: We ask them to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In those moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust"
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This is why when men get called gay when they have any normal human feelings. Or why effeminate men get so much hate. People get so hateful when men aren't assholes.

@Chandra yeah, it really is a shame when the emotionally mature/available men aren't always valued as they should be!

I can't say that I've ever felt disappointment or disgust with the men in my life who open up to me emotionally and vulnerably. I have some great guy friends who I've been able to support through their tears and difficulties (from sexual assault, divorce, child loss, and more) and who have in turn been there for me in mine. I probably come across as more of a man hater (because I hate the patriarchy) than I actually am lmao

I've also never seen this reaction from any of the women I know. But they're usually doing the bulk of emotional labor for the men in their lives anyway and helping them process all kinds of feelings. I mostly see frustration from women that men won't do this work themselves, or won't do it with other men.

@Raqi I only know a few who would likely have this reaction but unfortunately it's evident that quite a few women feel this way

I’m with @Raqi - I have never expressed OR witnessed this. Though I believe it exists, it’s just….shitty. And shitty women are everywhere just like shitty men I suppose.

I don't relate to this at all, and neither would any of the women I know. This quote is just gross.

In my experience, men who show emotion or vulnerability aren’t being genuine with it but use emotion to manipulate. Guess they’ve been around enough shitty women to learn the tactics. I believe there is a difference in a man expressing his emotions effectively versus just showing raw emotion, the latter can be very scary. Especially for the leader of the household. Maybe I’m wrong and have much to learn. You women are saints, some are still learning thanks to American patriarchy.

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