Do I Lie to my boyfriend about vaccines?

Always put your child first

Go with your gut instinct after doing your research and deciding if you want to vaccinate or not. I just wouldn’t lie about it if I were you as he has a right to know and will probably find out eventually… Hiding it would only cause you more grief in the long run. Just put your child first always.

It’s not saying you would break up either! He might come around to the idea as long as you don’t go behind his back 🤷🏽‍♀️

I mean breaking up over that alone is a little extreme but that's ur choice, my child's health and safety is a priority n seen as ur not married n I would say ur the primary parent n in my book u get final say on these things. U made ur baby birthed ur baby n u sure as hell don't deserve for something awful to happen to ur child, God forbid, just because 1 parent who didn't do a whole lot to get ur baby here is anti vax. There is much more credible evidence as to why u should get it as to y u shouldn't. Altho I would just book the app n then on the way out of the house to the app say btw I'm getting him vaccinated n then leave so least u told him x

I think you should be honest about vaccinating them and your reasons why. Wouldn’t it be worse if he find out after you’ve done it that you lied? But that’s so shitty if he breaks up with you over it

I’m not 100% sure on weather we would break up but it’s something we have discussed and researched before, I presented all the facts and cases studies ect and he presented his opinion and we still couldn’t see away round and it’s not something that there is a middle ground on! I 100% want to get them vaccinated as my LOs will always be my priority it’s just heartbreaking thinking I may lose someone I love and split up the family doing this!

Do what's best for your kids. If he wants to break up over this then he doesn't love his family and doesn't put them first. I suppose he's vaccinated as most of the adults? Just seems ridiculous to me to break up about something like this. You should not lie about something this important because you never know if something were to happen to you and hospitals needs to know if they are vaccinated or not. As well as schools that do not accept non vaccinated kids. He would eventually know anything. Best being honest. You are not asking his permission, you are just informing him

Would he be open to a delayed vaccination schedule??

My friend lost a child to a delayed vaccination schedule. It was their idea of a compromise between the pro and anti vax parent. She didn't make it to her second birthday. Seeing what their family went through was heartbreaking

Your already vaccinated child is the best evidence that it's okay. How old is the child?

The older the child, the even more convincing it is

My LO is 18 months and has all the vaccine up to this point! His argument against that tho is that he has 3 cousin all under 10 who aren’t vaccinated and they’re fine

I'm gonna go ahead and say this, and I mean this kindly. You're not the perfect couple. No one is. I'd worry this one disagreement is actually a sign of deeper incompatibility, and the radicalization that happens (especially to men) in what often starts off as vaccine skepticism can be alarming. I'd be checking into what other media he's interacting with 😬

@Raqi yeah I know no one’s perfect but in terms of how we communicate and everything we’re very compatible but I get what you mean! He only has these views because his family have them about the vaccines, our other views align x

I would argue that there are more people in the world that die because they don't have a vaccine than people that die because of it. So yeah, there's no stronger proof than that. And no, your cousins don't count in the billions of people in the planet. But you already know what's right and what's wrong, you just need to ask for your kids wellbeing

My husband and I did the, “he gets everything we got” Now if there’s someway your partner wasn’t vaccinated, then this argument, will not work. My mother let doctors put whatever they wanted in my body, and now she’s a holistic hippie, and also says we shouldn’t get ANY and im like…. Mom you didn’t even… whatever. But my husband was against all like… new ones, which I didn’t disagree with, there were 2 that haven’t even been around for more then 4 years. Nope. So our compromise was we both pulled out our vaccination papers, and whatever we both got, our baby has gotten. (Obviously they’re probably not the same version from 94’ but less modified)

A man can leave you … very unlikely that your kids will. Put your kids first

Dr Suzanne Humphries has some good info vaccines, just in case you're interested https://drsuzanne.net/dr-suzanne-humphries-vaccines-vaccination/ Do more of a deep dive if you can to before doing something drastic like splitting up your family.

Just to add context for the above that Dr Suzanne Humphries is a renowned anti-vaxxer. *** It’s a shame if you can’t agree on what’s best for your child but sometimes you need to stand firm in what you know is right (not just based on your opinion but on facts/ evidence) and accept the consequences. I think you need to consider how you would feel if your child got sick or worse from a preventable illness because you didn’t want to stand up to your bf. For 99% of people this would be much worse than a break up and would probably ultimately end the relationship anyway. This is actually a really big thing to disagree on and would make me question whether it’s a good fit anyway.

Depends on the vaccines in my opinion! Covid is an absolute no for me but the rest are and absolute yes

@Sorrel just wanted to point out that Dr. Humphries is not anti-vax, just pro-informed consent. She gives you the info that pharma isn't going to tell you, and you decide for yourself. The pharmaceutical industry is a corrupt criminal organization. All you need to do is look at how they caused the opioid crisis. They have actually paid criminal fines before because of their unethical practices. They fake studies and many other things. Just take a look at where your information comes from, and if it is from a source that is getting money from pharma, I wouldn't trust them. There is no harm in looking at other sources if they present you with real facts and information.

Say this out loud - there’s children, actively, dying from not getting vaccinated and you’re wondering if your relationship is more important than the wellbeing of your child. Is this satire?

if he wants to break up over your decisions about whats best for you children, that is his loss. i would do whats best for you and the baby!

@Elise what information is being hidden about vaccines?

@Chey can you believe there’s people out there who think vaccines are harmful it’s crazy

I would ditch a man in a second to protect my children's health and the health of immunocompromised people. There are lots of men out there and I care more about others than some man.

@Elise I disagree. Everything I’ve read about her is antivax and she appears to be celebrated by the antivax community. Sadly some doctors are happy to use their titles to spread misinformation and sell books. With every vaccine I’ve always had the opportunity to ask questions and had lots of information including risks. I can also access this freely and independently from reputable sources. To me that is informed consent. I’m happy with my choices and that I am protecting myself, my child and those around me who may be vulnerable. I don’t see the pharmaceutical industry in such a binary way. Yes it’s big business, very profitable etc. but that doesn’t cancel out the fact that it develops and produces life saving medication. Both of those things can be true. Medication isn’t the answer to everything but it is the answer to some things - measles, polio, tb, meningitis, diphtheria, hepatitis to name a few.

@Laura That many haven't gone under carcinogenicity testing, are rarely studied in pregnant women, not studied with a true plecebo, that many diseases were already in remission before the vax entered the market, the other ingredients in them, all sorts of things. A lot of info about that stuff in the original link I posted.

@Elise trials are held using the target population for the vaccine - https://www.vaccinedevelopment.org.uk/ct-overview.html Here are details of 13 trials on vaccines in pregnant women https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37903681/#:~:text=Pregnant%20women%20are%20generally%20excluded,women%20and%2For%20their%20foetuses Placebos are sometimes used https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4157320/ When a disease is actually eliminated we do not vaccinate anymore - smallpox is over and we don't vaccinate. With the ingredients if you're talking about aluminium, it is not pure aluminum in vaccines but aluminium salts which are completely different. If you look at the WHO guidelines, carcinogenicity testing isn't required. I would guess that it would be because the dose is very very small. The risk from a carcinogen is dose dependent. Do you opt out of all medicine where women aren't fairly represented in clinical trials?

@Laura Sorry I'm not really interested in a whole debate. My point here isn't to convince anyone shots are bad. Just to encourage people to look at other sources, always question the narrative, and be skeptical of the pharmaceutical industry.

@Elise if you're not interested in whether your sources are credible, why are you sharing them?

@Laura that is intentionally miscontruing what I said. I am interested in it being credible, but I don't think your sources are better or disprove mine in any way. Studies can be bought and paid for and I just don't agree with you sorry

@Elise I see