Last wake window. Duration and activities

How do you spend your last wake window and how long is it? My baby wakes at 6am, then has a 1 hour nap after 3 hours. Then she stays awake for 3.5 hours and has a 30 minutes nap, then stays awake for 4.5 hours and goes to bed at 7:30pm. All the three wake windows have in common the fact that there is no screen time (except a few minutes on a videocall with my parents in the second wake window), lots of reading but the bright colourful books are used in the first part of the wake window; the bright colourful toys are for the first two wake windows; there's plenty of standing up and crawling. During the last wake window I make sure she is tired, I will let her chase objects crawling around. Then, before going to bed, it takes me about 40 minutes for her bedtime routine: brush teeth, bedtime tales, bath, bottle, rock to sleep. She has 2/3 wakes, during which she doesn't do crawling parties, she never opens her eyes, she just needs to feed and be rocked back to sleep. But during the past few days I've noticed it's harder to make her fall asleep at 7:30pm, I'm rocking her and her eyes are open. She doesn't try to stand or anything, she just stares at me and it takes me longer to rock her. Yesterday it took me half and hour and my arms were in real pain (she is getting heavy!!). I'm wondering, do I do too much crawling before bedtime, so maybe she is overstimulated? How do you make sure your babies can wind down before going to bed and also make sure they are tired enough? The last wake window should be 3.5 hours but I've noticed only a 5 hours one makes sure she easily and quickly falls asleep😵‍💫
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@Molly Id love for her to go off on her own😂 really jealous. Yeah she is a catnapper but she has also always been one. And she has always fallen asleep super easily. I'm not sure why lately she looks like she can't wind down properly. She is just fighting sleep. She has just turned 9 months and for one week she had been waking up every 30 minutes from midnight until 2am. I thought that was a sleep regression. But if I'm not doing anything wrong in her routine then I have to consider that maybe that wasn't a growth spur and what she is doing now is.🤨🤷

I think you've answered it yourself - do a 5 hour wake window! She might just be getting older and needing more time awake.

@Emily damn. I liked her going to bed at 7pm - that only lasted a few days. I could die on the sofa for a little while before my husband got home. Her going to bed at 8pm will kill me 🥴🤯

Also, I read everywhere that the wake window should be 3.5 hours so I was afraid that 5 hours could lead to an overtired baby🤷 So I wanted to compare with you all here

Wake windows aren't actually real science, they're basically made up! Do whatever works for your baby - if they're falling asleep easily and staying asleep after 5 hours I'd say that is the sweet spot for your baby.

@Claudia Tell me about it - my baby goes to bed at 8.30/9pm, she is very low sleep needs! 😴

Glad to hear I'm not alone 🙈🤯

Definitely not - she sleeps about 2 hours total during the day and 10 hours at night, so 12 in total. The average for this age is apparently 12-15. I often think how much easier my life would be if she slept for 15 - longer breaks during the day and more of the evening to myself, but the best thing I've learnt is that I can't make her sleep more than she needs to.

Generally he’s got to be up from his last nap by 4pm to go to bed at 7. But often he’s awake around 3/3:30 and will be very ready for bed by 7 and go down quickly.

@Molly that's interesting

We do a quick cat nap in the morning at about 9.30 for 20 minutes (he wakes 6.30/7), and then 2 hour nap at 12.30-2.30, then bed at 6.45. I start bedtime at 6, bath him and my older son, get him ready, breastfeed, cuddles, story and bed. He drifts off in a few minutes and sleeps through. We’ll gradually cut the morning nap as he gets closer to 1.

Update: today I adjusted the naps so that she had her second nap ending at 2:30 pm and could have 5 hours awake before bedtime. She stayed awake for almost 5 hours and went off pretty easily. So yeah she definitely needs more time before bedtime - yay lucky me🥴

Ah brilliant, at least you found something that seems to work. The length of my baby's wake windows don't actually seem to affect her night sleep much, just the total amount of time she's been awake for in the day, so they can be 3-4-5, 4-4-4, 5-4-3 and it doesn't seem to matter!

Yeah I'm new to the 2 naps thing and the length of the wake windows found on the internet was always reliable up so far. Surprisingly enough, she does need 5 hours now, even if she spends the whole day reading, crawling and standing up😵‍💫

Yeah I think they worked ok for me until she went down to 2 naps at 7/8 months. I follow https://instagram.com/dozesleepcoaching?igshid=NjIwNzIyMDk2Mg== and her methods have always worked well for us.

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@Emily ah so I'm not the only one, it's exactly the same for me! Thanks for sharing that, I will follow her now!

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