Birth certificate

Your legally required to if you know who the father is

You as the mother can choose whether to have the baby’s father put onto the birth certificate or not. If you’re not married then he has to be with you at the appointment if you want to put him on it. And you can still claim child maintenance if he is not on it

My child’s father isn’t on it and yet he’s still meant to be paying me child maintenance

@Maura you aren't legally required to. If he's not there to do it himself (assuming they're not married) then he simply can't be put on it. You're on ly legally required to put the correct person on if you want a Second parent to be on it I would say do not put him on it unless he is desperate to be on it and be there to put himself on it. As soon as you do that, he has every right to call drs, nursery's, prevent you from travelling/has to give permission. I would leave him off. You can still claim maintenance without. It has absolutely no impact at all. But if you do leave him off, he can request a DNA test when you open your claim which can then make it easier if he wasn't to be on BC x

I was advised not to put my child's dad on the bc due to dv and he still pays child maintenance. But I was told if he applies to the court to go on there most of the time they allow it as a child has a right to know who their dad is.

@Chiara my ex said he will deny on purpose to get dna to get PR. I wasn’t sure if it was worth it

Igognito, there's other ways to get her PR other than through CMS so if desperately wants it he could still do regardless of CMS. I don't think the dna test automatically gives him PR but I think it would then make it easier to be pit on bc after. If he requests a dna test, when it come back as positive he will then have to pay for that test, plus arrears. Often they say these things to scare you out of claiming. I personally would still claim but then I don't know your situation

It's not worth it, he can still find ways to control you being on BC and having PR. I left my ex off due to reasons and he pays maintenance still. It's not a legal requirement he has to be on there, personally I'd say it's not worth the stress. DNA test won't give PR or be on BC automatically until he's applied to court for an order to be granted PR and apply to be put on BC. Unless he takes you to court for contact, I wouldn't bother applying for CMS x

@Nicole but I would be missing out in the mean time isn’t it ??

My opinion also comes from a place where the amount of maintenance is a decent amount. If it was to be say £30/month I wouldn't bother claiming at all

Yes it would mean not getting maintenance but could then mean father takes you through court for access leading to 50/50 (depending on the situation of course) It is only you can decide on this but we are all here to support and offer advice x

Around possibly £130 a month I think @Chiara

Ah fair enough, I guess it depends on how much that's worth to you in comparison to the chance that he might try to get PR which he could do at any point any way

So he can get pr anyways without dna through cms ? @Nicole @Chiara

Yeah, he could just go to a court, say he wants access and then a whole process would start. He could request to be on the birth certificate and if you deny he's the dad a dna test would still be done. Cms isn't the only way for him to get PR and be on the birth certificate. All of the different ways have a cost. And in a lot of cases, dad's threaten this so they don't have to pay maintenance. If he isn't paying you anything now then my assumption would be that it's a scare tactic... I also could be very very wrong

@Chiara he said in the past he didn’t mind paying CMS he said he needs DNA to get pr that’s why he would deny on purpose

If he doesn't mind paying then he can pay it directly to you, you dont have to go througb CMs at all. He doesn't need a dna test if you agree he is the parent. But you can also let him deny it, it'll be him that pays the cost of the dna test. I guess it also depends on if your happy for him to have PR, is he actively involved?

@Chiara he was then he told I could go to CMS and I did and he denied

@Chiara will it cost him alot ??

I just had a quick Google and it seems to be about £100 but that's not for one approved by courts, I don't know how much that's costs.

@Chiara as in to pay to get pr?

Oh i have no idea. My little ones dad has absolutely no involvement and no PR so I haven't had to deal with costs

£255 to apply to court (child arrangement order) but if on low income theres help with costs (so can be free to apply)

@Nicole how come you wouldn’t apply before contact ?

If he can use it as a way to control you through the child I wouldn't risk it. I had safeguarding concerns and risk of the family taking my child