If your religion or your god insinuates itās absolutely fine to mutilate your child, I think you should change religions and find a new god. Whether youāre religious or not, stop abusing your children. If itās not for a medical reason, like reoccurring infections for example, it should be illegal. Period.
Got both my boys done, very glad I didš„°
You donāt get to decide what someone else believes in or practicesā¦.demonetising religions and cultural practices without understanding their significance just makes you sound ignorant. just worry about you and yours.
Okay āincognitoā maybe go read a book
This tells a lot about you hiding your identity as incognito to say this. It means you have no courage to say what you have to say. People have the right to do what they wantā¦ and people who are not in both religion still do it and are glad they did. You donāt get to decide what anyone else believes in. This post should be reported, you do not disrespect peopleās religion
Can honestly say Iāve never wasted energy worrying about other childrenās penises or peoples parenting. Dismissing peoples religion though, says a lot.
I think in this country it's only really done for religious/cultural reasons - it's definitely not as common as it is is in, say, America where it's done cosmetically due to lack of education about cleanliness. You'd have a hard time getting it done on the NHS unless there was a legitimate medical issue requiring circumcision. Personally, I think it's barbaric unless it's medically necessary. It's so outdated and it's a permanent decision parents are making for their baby boys that will affect them for their entire life.
Iām not sure if thereās a way to have this discussion in a reasoned and nuanced way. However, lots of religions have adapted over the centuries to move with the times, and the reasons circumcision is performed seem to me to be very woolly. Even doing so for hygiene reasons in this day and age seems unnecessary, though I can appreciate why it may have been introduced in a time when personal hygiene was so critically linked to death.
š I just canāt, just because you donāt agree doesnāt mean others need to go āfind a new Godā I never engage in peanut drama but this is a whole new level.
Another troll hiding behind an incognito!! Talk about being small minded Thereās also medical conditions that require it to be done. My son will have to be circumcised as he has hypospadias his for skin will be used to relocate his urethra (his dad had the same procedure) itās not a choice we have itās that or it affects him in later life
@Alexandra says āI consider myself open minded and respectfulā ābelieve people can believe whatever they likeā, then proceeds to call people gross for following their religion š¤£š¤£ have a day off
@Alexandra yes and that is a part of their religion. You said ānobody should judge someone on their religionā but then judged. Very hypocritical donāt you think
Genuine question - Iāll leave my opinions out of it - can someone who is religious explain how circumcision relates to their culture and the reasoning for it (if that makes sense š ). I donāt think Iāve worded this very well. Without sounding ignorant, Iām keen to understand the cultural reasons behind it as a practice. Iām not looking for an argument either. Just some understanding in a respectful manner
@H K exactly my thoughts you brought the words out of my mouthā¦ what does she mean by open minded and religions not accepting gays but at the same time condemning peopleās religion and culture at the same time @Alexandra the statement āconsidering yourself open mindedā shouldnāt be associated with your post because you not. I stay away from social media drama but this is ridiculousā¦
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@H K Very good for you, are your boys glad YOU did?
@Donna Woods I canāt speak for other religions but as a Muslim, it is considered an act of cleanliness, purity and obedience to God. It has both spiritual and health benefits. Cleanliness is a huge part of Islam. The health benefits include reduced risk of UTIs, lower risk of STIs, circumcision has also been shown to reduce risk of penile cancer although rare. Circumcised men also have a lower likelihood of harboring and transmitting HPV, the list goes on. If you want more info, Iād suggest doing more research online or speaking to a medical professional. š
As a Muslim woman this greatly offends me how dare you make me and other feel made for making that decision it's part of my religion this makes you seem racist if I'm being completely honest there are many benefits of this maybe do our research before saying such nasty things
Circumcision has several potential medical, hygiene, and health benefits, though it is a personal choice influenced by cultural, religious, and individual preferences. Here are some key benefits: 1. Reduced Risk of Infections Lower chance of urinary tract infections (UTIs), especially in infancy. Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections (STIs), including HIV, HPV, herpes, and syphilis. 2. Improved Hygiene Easier to clean, reducing the risk of smegma buildup, irritation, and infections like balanitis (inflammation of the foreskin and glans). 3. Lower Risk of Certain Cancers Reduces the risk of penile cancer (though rare).
Hmm not sure, donāt think theyāve noticed a difference tbf. If in the future theyāre not glad, Iām just gonna have to put them up for adoption because mums always right xxx
Also for those who say male circumcision is the same thing as FGM, please do your research. FGM involves harmful procedures that damage the female genitalia causing severe physical and emotional harm with absolutely no health benefits, itās based on an ignorant basis in controlling female sexuality which is why it is a human rights violation. Male circumcision is a low risk procedure with proven health benefits. No comparison.
@H K š¤£š¤£love this xx
@Ceri-Ann Exactly why I stated unless itās medically necessary
@H K that made me chuckle ššš
Iām sure are kids will be thankful to her, Her kids her choice. Your kids your choice āhiding behind your keypad, come out with your full chest Bonker
@Aisha Thank you! I appreciate you taking time to explain it āŗļø Iām aware of the medical side, was just curious about the religious aspect of it.
@JENNIFER Yeah, Iām sure theyāll thank her for potential lack of sensitivity, a higher chance of meatitis, discomfort from the glands rubbing on clothes and potential mental health problems of feeling mutilated for an unnecessary operation that they didnāt consent to šš»
Potentially x
Now Iām 1000% convinced that you are clueless and from a disturbed home.. you are more worried about glands rubbing on cloths, than infection gathering, speaking about mental illness from someone who obviously is disturbed about other peopleās choices behind keypadsā¦ at least they have things to be thankful for, rather than the regrets of having a parent who hide behind a keypad based on his/her insecurities worrying about other childrenās penises and peopleās parenting.
@JENNIFER if you're worried about infections maybe just teach your sons about good hygiene rather than removing a part of their body? š¤£ the cleanliness argument is honestly ridiculous. You are entitled to your own beliefs and (sadly) entitled to make this decision for your children, but a lot of people are not going to agree with you or endorse your decision.
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@Emily no one wants you or anyone to endorse anyone decision but rather donāt insult peopleās choice, beliefs, culture and religion just because of your dead opinion. Let people make choices for their kids not yours, you did not carry anyone child for 9/10months so itās not your decision. Iām sure infection is more valid than cloths rubbing a gland if you compare both(sadly you didnāt think of that). No one has the right to tell anyone what to believe or belittle anyone parenting. Your kids your choice.. our kids our choicesā¦. What a joke
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@JENNIFER Youāre not wrong, I was a physically abused as a child and are you going to tell me you condone that next as well? Thereās no excuse for inflicting pain on an infant PERIOD. Iām not more worried about glands rubbing on cloths, but your argument for infection is completely invalid, as @Emily said, maybe teach your sons about good hygiene. Your beliefs are that weak youāre more pressed about incognito rather than inflicting pain on a baby that didnāt consent to it. I have nothing to be insecure about, my baby is loved, pain free and I would never in my wildest dreams do anything to cause him harm. This isnāt just about penises, itās about unnecessary pain inflicted on a CHILD because of parentās choices. And taking their choice away from them into adulthood.
Same way you took away a choice for them to be born oh you think you didnātā¦. And you are more worried about other children penises and peopleās parenting rather than focusing on yours. I will stand my ground any day that you are hiding behind keypads. Your child your choice . from the start no1 said you should or shouldnāt, itās when you insult other people choices/belief/parenting/cuture/religion thatās a whole different level. If you are in anyway informed you would read through and see no one said you should or shouldnāt. Same way the baby didnāt consent for you to be their parent. Everyone here who stood up for children, born or unborn loves their kids and you canāt insult @H K parenting or anyone else. Hypocriteā¦.
Intentionally inflicting physical pain on a child by choice and a child being born into the world are two very different things, but if you need me to explain that to you, then that is very worrying and Iād get more common sense out of talking to a brick wall.
I genuinely weep for humanity if the argument for cutting off a foreskin is now that the baby didn't give consent to be born.
Focus on your own parenting and donāt insult others. Itās basic common sense. Periodā¦ the only reason people said something was because you started insulting peopleās religion. Simple
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@Emily you being uninformed is pleasurable š¤£š¤£š¤£ donāt insult peopleās beliefs, opinions, religion and culture. Period
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I think you should be mindful of peoples religions, its a big part of peoples lives. Two of the biggest religions in the world practice this procedure and you would be surprised about the number of non religious people who also carry out circumcision.