Starving your baby bc you think "breast is best" makes you a bad mom idgaf

It’s sad when people are hard headed. But in her case, it sounds like shes not supported and educated in her breastfeeding journey. She should def supplement until she can fix what’s going on with her milk supply. It’s sad because pediatricians aren’t breastfeeding informed so they can’t support breastfeeding moms and moms themselves aren’t educated enough to know what to do. Her baby lost more than 12% of their birth weight so that’s not good at all. She needs to do what’s best for her baby and see a lactation consultant if she really wants to EBF. Also pumping is not a good indicator of supply. And unlike formula, 1 drop of breastmilk usually has more calorie than formula however since baby is losing too much weight and having issues, she needs to feed baby breastmilk way more often. Is baby not latching?

@✨Wis 🇭🇹 she has a huge support system her & her hubby are just stubborn & think they know best. She's definitely not educated enough but we've all tried! I bought her vitamins & herbs to help with her supply, made her teas, cookies & foods to help her milk come in. Told her it might take time so supplement a little with formula. He's latching correctly she's just not producing enough. She'll latch him & he'll suck but starts crying. THEN her hubby will feed him the milk she does pump but holds the bottle low so he's getting a lot of air bubbles. I told him you can't do that & he said well if I hold it the correct way he drinks it too fast💀 I try to help & give advice as much as I can but they don't listen to me or even the baby's pediatrician. Said they'll see a specialist but still hasn't

Yeaaaa that just sounds like neglect. Surely starving a baby is much worse than giving formula. What do they think the formula will do to the baby??

Fkn yikes, I’d call cps

Huh? It’s normal for babies to loose weight when they leave the hospital. You a damn snake in the grass. Instead of helping the poor girl increase her breast milk you trying to get her child took. How fucking dare a disgrace

@Mayaa it's normal for a healthy EBF to lose up to 10% of its weight in the first 5-7 days and gain it back in about 2 weeks. This baby is 3 weeks old and has lost about 30% of its body weight. This is neglect. This is abuse. She is starving her baby to death. IDGAF how you want to feed your baby, that poor soul needs nutrients. He needs formula along with whatever breast milk she can produce and id be willing to bet he needs IV nutrients too at this point. Some women can not produce milk no matter what they try and she needs to put her babies needs before her wants. CPS needs notified

Yes babies loose weight but that is a big weight loss for a newborn. I’d definitely be calling someone and asking for advice or even a check on the baby and parents. 1oz isn’t enough to go 4-6 hours in between of feeding. A breastfed baby usually feeds more frequently from what I’ve seen and read from other people. I formula fed as my milk never came in and my baby was drinking 2-3oz every 1-3 hours and sometimes earlier x

@Mayaa it is not normal to lose that much weight. So until her supply increases it’s okay to starve the child?

Is this post from the USA? As in the UK you have health visitors who come out and weigh the baby and do referrals if they can to help parents get the support they need x

Her supply isn’t gonna increase if she’s going 11 hours without latching or pumping. Is she eating enough? It sounds like she really needs to do a lot more research on breastfeeding and supply. Maybe help her understand that the formula can be very temporary. She can increase her supply, but in the mean time her baby is suffering.

Sounds like she needs to do see a LC, also you get less from pumping. My newborn was eating like every 2 hours on the dot, sometimes a lot more. Sending love that way, maybe she’s dealing with some PPD, try to help even if hard instead of judge

@Mayaa ig you skipped over the part where I said i make her lactation cookies, teas, food, & bought her vitamins... literally tried to help her but she chooses to ignore it even ignore the pediatrician. Yes it's normal for babies weight to go down but not by that much. Idc how close i am to a person at some point you have to do what's best for the child. Her baby is starving. Sometimes no matter what you do some woman can't produce enough milk. It's selfish of her. She'd rather her baby go hungry than give formula

@Aja I'm trying but it's hard seeing her baby constantly crying bc he's hungry. Like idk how she doesn't get her baby is starving. She won't listen to anyone. Told the pediatrician she's see a specialist for the baby but won't.

Lactation cookies teas and all that stuff doesn’t always work doing all of that all at once without troubleshooting the problem. It might make her supply dip even more actually. It’s important to trouble shoot why her supply isn’t enough first. You also need the right kinds of food (nutrient dense) proper water intake and proper sleep. It also has to do with how often she nurses, for how long and from the beginning. If she’s eating dairy for example, that can cause stomach issues for baby, certain vegetables do that as well. Her going hours without nursing and pumping is also hurting her more especially this early. It’s just sad she won’t supplement and it is neglect. Something needs to be done. Eventually the pediatrician will figure it out

@Mayaa not that much weight!!

With a newborn, she needs to be latching every 2-3 hours around the clock. She shouldn't be going all night without either latching or pumping, and the baby needs to eat way more frequently than every 4-6 hours. That baby is starving. Breastfeeding isn't the problem here, it's the schedule. The mother's milk supply is not going to increase without regular latching. I imagine the baby wants to be cluster feeding. As a newborn, my baby nursed almost constantly