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my c section baby was the same the doctors said it’s just a separation thing some babies don’t take well to how abrupt the surgery is

It’s do so hard these first few weeks and feels like you’ll never get through it but you will! I’m. 13 weeks PP my girl also has CMPA and I BF which means I also. Now have to be dairy free! Day 2-7 is so hard as they cluster feed,, have no understanding of day and night and your exhausted just push through, keep reaching out it’s so so hard but we’ve got this!! Xxxx

Your doing everything right and so is baby he won’t want to be of off you in a cold next2me when your lovely n warm but Co sleep if your comfortable with that personally I’m not but some mums find it’s the only way they get any sleep or keep pushing, feed him, keep him sat up on your chest for 5-15mins to let his feed settle then try gently transfer him. Whst is he wearing is he warm enough cxx

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There is a thing called second night syndrome

I was trying to breastfeed only but was not getting a lot of milk (apparently with a c-section milk takes a little longer to come in) - so I started to combi feed turns out baby was just hungry and settled shortly after upping his intake. I also got a medela breast pump to continue stimulating milk production AND regardless of boob or bottle always give time to take out any burps or gas - you can find positions in TikTok to do this (my go to), my baby is now 2 weeks combi feeds and his got a routine now: eat, burp or fart, nappy change and sleep & repeat. Minimal crying😅 I also got him on comfort formula because just wanted to avoid any colic or constipation as there belly’s are so sensitive as newborns xx

If you have a moses basket try that instead of the next2me, you can the actual basket in the next2me if it's easier. My c section baby really struggled to settle in her next2me but it turns out they can be too big to start off with and the basket is much more enclosed for them

And get your head down as fast as you can through the night n cram as much rest in as possible.im saying all this wishing someone told me all this coz they didn’t n them first 2 ish months nearly broke me it’s so hard!! I had complications though my daughter didn’t breathe for 6mins, we was kept in for a week she has sepsis, then came home n I had 2major bleeds n had yo go back in for a few days, ive had 4 infections, I got gallstones n now having my gallbladder removed in 4weeks. Been a new mum is no joke but we amaze ourselves with how strong we are once we’ve done it!!

Baby has just come from your nice warm tummy, all squished and warm inside and now will take some time to adjust. Here a few things you can try: It’s Perfectly normal for baby wanting to be held so give the cuddles as much as you can Swaddle using a blanket or zip up swaddle bag Try a Moses basket instead as is more snug and cosy than a next to me Sleep with their blanket so that it smells of you and then use fur baby So I struggled with breast feeding and this is what I did. I latched baby every 3 hours for 15mins on each side and then topped up with formula. This ensured that we were still having skin on skin time and baby didn’t begin to prefer bottle. It’s hard but sleep when baby sleeps, or atleast rest your eyes even during the day. It’s only day 2, it’s hard, but you get through it, get your husband/partner to hello where they are able to.

Thank you so much everyone! This is so helpful. My partner was also worried baby wouldn’t settle for him too. But he will on me. I will try his noses basket. He is in a sleeping fog with sleepsuit and best. Room temp 20 degrees x

A hot water bottle hour or so before you put baby in the next to me will warm it up for them. (Take it out when baby is in there) worked wonders for my second x

My little girl was the same. I was worried the next to me space was too big for her. I had a midwife visitor the next day after getting home and she said to let her sleep in a Moses basket instead, which was better but didn’t help completely. She’s 4 weeks now and she is starting to sleep in the next to me just this week, a lot better too. Two other midwife’s came and they said it’s normal for them to be so unsettled and it’s all about the 4th trimester, transitioning from womb to world xx

Our little one got confused between day and night (which is quite common). Me and my husband took it in turns to stay up with her (but did 5 hours shifts). I brought a mum cozy white noise machine, we did things differently in the day to night. In the day it would be light with lots of sounds and sleep in her Moses basket at night it was very dark and quiet (except the machine). We use a hot water bottle at night to warm the bed up. So every time she gets out it’s still warm and we double up on blankets at night. Hang on in there muma. It gets easier x

Just to add, I believe safe sleep advice doesn’t recommend using anything too warm their bed. But we did use a hot water bottle also. Made sure it didn’t over warm, used just so it wasn’t cold when we put them down. Didn’t leave hot water bottle in there with baby ever.

My lg was the same. We ended up cosleeping for our sanity 😅 babies that go through natural birth go through a decompression when born whereas C-section babies rarely do so they have a lot of tension. We had to go to an osteopath to release that tension.

Man that first night home *shudders* Yes second night syndrome, and a bit of a ride wild until milk comes in. You got this mama.

@Sophie great tip!

@Janja that’s interesting… not heard this. Do you mean like they get almost a massage as they come out vaginally to release tension? Do you think baby massage would help a C section baby too?

@Jacinta I am not too sure how it works, it's something the osteopath mentioned when she explained why there's so much tension. You could always try.

He may want to feed every 10-30 mins so just follow his lead. He’s just out the womb and obviously it’s a big change. Just support him and all will be ok

@Janja hey do you have a contact, recommendation of where you went?

If you are planning to exclusively breastfeed, I do not recommend giving your baby formula. What he is doing is called cluster feeding, which stimulates your breasts to produce more milk. If you give him formula, he will feel full for a longer time, meaning he will not stimulate your breasts, and your supply will most likely decrease. He might seem like he is hungry and not getting enough, but at this age, he just needs drops of colostrum. What he needs most are lots of cuddles and your breasts. Most likely, he will only settle on your chest. Don’t worry—he is programmed to do this. He spent the past nine months listening to your heartbeat. And no, you cannot spoil him… good luck :)

@Melisa https://essentialosteopathy.co.uk/ in Glasgow

@Janja thanks a million! Xx

Thank you so much for all the comments. We’ve had another crazy night. He was hungry and tired but wouldn’t feed. He’s finally given in, fed and now fast asleep. Hopefully for a few hours. He’s had a much more settled day.